Hey all,

I’ve been hunting for a van/camper to travel around Europe, and I recently picked up an older Fiat Ducato motorhome at a good price. It only needs a few bits (wiper motors, new batteries, a solar panel, and a heater) and then it’ll be ready as my first rolling home.

Originally, I was looking at Fiat Ducato 4x4s or Mercedes-Benz Sprinter 4x4s, since I liked the idea of going a bit off-road and getting away from the standard campsites. But then I stumbled onto the world of true 4×4 expedition trucks — not pickups or small vans, but two, three, and even four-axle, 12–18 ton military monster builds. And that was it. I was sold.

While I finish the Ducato, I’m starting to plan the base for a future build. After some initial research, I’ve narrowed it down: I want a 2-axle, 4×4 truck as the foundation. I’m especially curious about Magirus Deutz, since I’ve heard ex-military chassis can be reliable and reasonably priced in Europe.

What I’m looking for from you:

• Real-world feedback on Magirus Deutz as an overland platform (common models to look for, pros/cons, parts availability in Europe).
• Alternative 12–18t, 4×4, 2-axle bases I should consider (ex-military or municipal).
• Recommended specs/features I should be looking for — things like diff lock, suspension, brakes, gearbox.
• Ownership realities: service networks, fuel economy, noise/vibration (air-cooled engines?), legal/inspection hurdles, and typical pitfalls.
• If this isn’t the best subreddit for heavy expedition trucks, please point me to the right communities (other subs, forums, FB groups, Discords).

I know a C/CE (heavy truck) license is needed — I’m already signed up and start in a couple of months.

Really appreciate any guidance, model suggestions, and resources!